Pennsylvania bill aims to end “Florida gun loophole” law.

Legislation now before the House Judiciary Committee is just a…

Legislation now before the House Judiciary Committee is just a paragraph long, but it has set off a major battle between firearms owners and law enforcement authorities who want to reduce gun violence, especially in Philadelphia.

State Rep. Bryan Lentz, a Delaware County Democrat who’s running for a congressional seat in suburban Philadelphia, has introduced House Bill 2536, aimed at ending the “Florida gun loophole.” It would prevent Pennsylvanians who have been denied a Pennsylvania license to carry a concealed firearm (or have had their Pennsylvania permit revoked) from simply getting a license from another state.

The proposed legislation would prohibit Pennsylvania residents from exploiting what Mr. Lentz calls a loophole in current law, a provision that lets them obtain a license to carry from another state.

Mr. Lentz said his bill is needed “to ensure that local authorities retain control over the [firearms] permit process and that Pennsylvania residents who are granted a license to carry have met the standards of our state and not those of another state, whose standards may be less than ours.”

Residents of other states can now carry concealed weapons in Pennsylvania if they have permits issued by their home states.

Florida has been a popular state for Pennsylvanians to use the end run on gun permits. It has issued about 3,000 weapons permits to Pennsylvanians, in part because many vacationers and “snow birds” from the Keystone State go there for the beaches, sun and Disney World.

However, Mr. Lentz said, many Pennsylvanians who get Florida permits have “absolutely no connection” to the Sunshine State — they merely go there online or through the mail.

Pennsylvania law requires a person to be licensed in order to carry a concealed weapon on his person or in his vehicle. No permit is required to openly carry a firearm.

But Pennsylvania permits are not issued by the state police or another state agency. They’re given out by the county sheriff in 66 Pennsylvania counties and by city police in Philadelphia.

Philadelphia has had serious problems with gun-related violence and killings for years, which police are trying to stop.

Mr. Lentz cited a case where a man was arrested in a rental car at the Philadelphia airport. There was a loaded weapon in the car trunk and another gun concealed on his person. The man had had his Pennsylvania license revoked.

While the legal proceedings were still pending, Mr. Lentz said the man “obtained a Florida ‘license to carry’ by mail. He was subsequently stopped by Philadelphia police in a car with another loaded firearm. There was no arrest, however — even though his Pennsylvania ‘license to carry’ had been revoked — because he now had a Florida license to carry.”

Source: Tom Barnes for Post-Gazette Harrisburg Bureau.

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  • There is no loophole. PA residents who wish to carry a firearms outside their home or place of business must obtain a PA License to Carry Firearms. Anyone who is not a resident of PA may carry a firearm if they hold a license/permit from any state that PA holds a reciprocal agreement with. This is an example of lawmakers wasting time and money, as usual.

  • Peter

    In response to Mara A. The post you just made is wrong. A Non-resident of Florida can apply for a non-resident CCW through the mail. If one calls the Florida Dept. of Agriculture they can receive an application packet in the mail, then return the packet via mail with all documents needed to receive a non-resident license. I know because I did it.

  • Au contraire. I have a Non Resident Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm License, as well as a Utah Non Res (it is not a CCP…look at your license). Each were legally obtained via thorough process while I was a resident of the State of California (neither let me carry in California but did allow me to carry in 30 plus states IF I FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE STATE OFFERING RECIPROCITY). The Florida process included requesting an application from the Florida Dept of Ag (Charles Bronson heads this dept). As a Veteran with a DD-214 firearms training was waived. Fingerprints, affadivits etc. etc. were required as well as a 175 dollar fee. The Pennsylvania complaint has nothing to do with Florida reciprocity and everything to do with the violator not complying with Pennsylvania law while in Pennsylvania. Mr Lentz probably knows these facts but is ignoring them while being funded by anti gun anti 2ND Amendment elements in his run for Congress.

  • Mara A

    The story about they guy getting a CCP via mail from Florida is a big honking lie! I’m a Florida resident and there is NO provision for obtaining a concealed carry permit via the mail. Stupid liberals.